tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2513019539869706574.post2419135116340153163..comments2024-03-29T20:04:30.755+08:00Comments on Monsters and Manuals: The City as DungeonUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2513019539869706574.post-52403108123215593122011-09-08T15:36:22.649+08:002011-09-08T15:36:22.649+08:00Actually, it's a bit strange that TSR made the...Actually, it's a bit strange that TSR made their first D&D game a mostly above-ground adventure.<br /><br />I wonder if it was drawing more from previous computer RPGs rather than paper and pen modules...Billynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2513019539869706574.post-42499623256290415122011-09-07T23:56:03.130+08:002011-09-07T23:56:03.130+08:00Hmm, never heard of King Pest. I'll see if I c...Hmm, never heard of King Pest. I'll see if I can find it. Ditto the Pools of Radiance Clue Book.noismshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09933436762608669966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2513019539869706574.post-14093262928487225422011-09-07T22:20:58.455+08:002011-09-07T22:20:58.455+08:00No, King Pest, the short story by Poe. A couple n...No, King Pest, the short story by Poe. A couple ne'er-do-wells get in trouble and, against their better judgement, jump the wall to the plague-ridden, abandoned part of the city. Hijinks ensue.<br /><br />Pool of Radiance was my introduction to D&D. Try searching for the Pool of Radiance Clue Book--it has the cliff notes to the game. Some example city sections: Sokal Keep, Kuto's Well and Catacombs, Mendor's Library, Podol Plaza, Cadorna Textile House, Wealthy Area(now Temple of Bane), Kovel Mansion, Valhingen Graveyard, Stojanow Gate, Valjevo Castle<br /><br />Also, you see this? http://grognardia.blogspot.com/2011/09/retrospective-pavis.htmlBillyhttp://billygoes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2513019539869706574.post-1772672644471429582011-09-05T18:01:55.237+08:002011-09-05T18:01:55.237+08:00Pools of Radiance, eh? I remember having it but no...Pools of Radiance, eh? I remember having it but not being able to get it to work.<br /><br /><b>Zak</b>: Yeah, I'm keen to get away from basements, really. Or, at least, not having them linked together.<br /><br />As for maps - university campus maps are usually *perfect* for palace/temple complexes. Seriously.<br /><br /><b>Billy</b>: Do you mean King Rat?noismshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09933436762608669966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2513019539869706574.post-36690674500372825062011-09-05T12:45:06.561+08:002011-09-05T12:45:06.561+08:00Nice! Reminds me a bit of the setting of King Pes...Nice! Reminds me a bit of the setting of King Pest.Billyhttp://billygoes.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2513019539869706574.post-22899935099903088402011-09-05T08:13:04.582+08:002011-09-05T08:13:04.582+08:00Looking forward to seeing this on ConstCon, would ...Looking forward to seeing this on ConstCon, would love to jump into it!gdbackushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09245941451462450346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2513019539869706574.post-13599926676168005552011-09-05T07:06:47.761+08:002011-09-05T07:06:47.761+08:00Have run several things like this. I have a city i...Have run several things like this. I have a city in my campaign that has a "forbidden and mostly deserted older city zone" separated by a moat.<br /><br />The main issues:<br /><br />-once you start using basements, it's just a regular old dungeon again<br /><br />-if you aren't using basements, the big deal is: which rooms are accessible from windows on the outside of buildings? detailed climbability ratings are desirable.<br /><br />-scale: the urbancrawl rules I came up with were because no city on a scale I wanted to use was truly "mappable" in the D&D sense. Is a section of city mappable as such? Is it less "mysterious" if you know roughly how big it is, which buildings are explore and which are unexplored.<br /><br />-option: use a real city neighborhood house-by-house map as the basic "map", and develop a table for what's in any as-yet-undescribed buildings.<br /><br />-common city-as-dungeon tactic developed by my players: harass monsters, get chased, run away, hang out on nearby roof, snipe at monsters as they come.<br />]Zak Sabbathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08812410680077034917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2513019539869706574.post-90182752531650821742011-09-05T06:57:08.397+08:002011-09-05T06:57:08.397+08:00Yeah, Kelvin, as soon as I read his post, I immedi...Yeah, Kelvin, as soon as I read his post, I immediately thought of Pool of Radiance. TSR made an adventure based on that game called "Ruins of Adventure" which basically had you going through various parts of the city of Phlan and clearing it out a la a dungeon crawl. It was, in fact, the first adventure I ever played in when I started playing DnD. I've always liked the concept of the city as a dungeon.RobChandlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07751057765555584823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2513019539869706574.post-16663514426165725112011-09-05T02:20:55.523+08:002011-09-05T02:20:55.523+08:00One of the old D&D computer games had a simila...One of the old <i>D&D</i> computer games had a similar set up; I think it was <i>Pool of Radiance</i>.thekelvingreenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01928260185408072124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2513019539869706574.post-61978092532357349272011-09-05T00:34:14.679+08:002011-09-05T00:34:14.679+08:00Sounds like a cool idea. I keep wanting to do an u...Sounds like a cool idea. I keep wanting to do an urban campaign set in a city, and this just wants me to do it even more.Simon Forsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01243845335993440168noreply@blogger.com