tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2513019539869706574.post3295530854552786268..comments2024-03-29T20:04:30.755+08:00Comments on Monsters and Manuals: The Further You Get from the SunUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2513019539869706574.post-43005037666786499532012-06-11T16:42:34.863+08:002012-06-11T16:42:34.863+08:00Some writers in the 1880-1950 period looked at the...Some writers in the 1880-1950 period looked at the outer world, this is discussed in rpg terms (with the stories) at <br /><br />http://www.forgottenfutures.com/game/index.htmHanley Tuckshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13047638048463160737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2513019539869706574.post-31313369164963045712012-02-11T07:12:08.148+08:002012-02-11T07:12:08.148+08:00Space 1889 nicely summarized the pulp view, but, a...<i>Space 1889</i> nicely summarized the pulp view, but, as pointed out, the pulp writers really only went for the inner worlds. If you expand out to include the outer planets, you could make the time scale smaller. So Mars becomes the near-future, including jetpacks and bubble-cities; Buck Rogers stuff. Hmn, maybe each suceeding planet becomes a new vision of the future as seen in SciFi, so that Jupiter becomes a Golden Age, 1950's future and Neptune is cyber-puncky.Matthew Slepinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04056247825064943944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2513019539869706574.post-55640811308855527182012-02-07T11:50:24.946+08:002012-02-07T11:50:24.946+08:00This made me look through my old Gurps books like ...This made me look through my old Gurps books like Ultratech. If you increase the peak technical level of each planet as you move further away, Neptune has Tech Level 15. At that level, you have all kinds of insane-power stuff.<br /><br />What I liked was Saturn having Easymatter. I like to imagine an easymatter mage/mad scientist.sycarionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13741233143540350684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2513019539869706574.post-13903604856801687682012-02-07T00:46:05.501+08:002012-02-07T00:46:05.501+08:00Cool, its as if the planets kept spawning through ...Cool, its as if the planets kept spawning through the eons, life and civilizations formed and passed as they were pushed farther away from the birth star.Telecanterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07238356788092725244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2513019539869706574.post-31397065823446986442012-02-06T22:55:18.508+08:002012-02-06T22:55:18.508+08:00I always loved this idea. I believe that Space 188...I always loved this idea. I believe that Space 1889 used it, no?<br /><br />With this approach, Pluto as Yuggoth is almost perfect - you can't "older" than Cthulhu Mythos.Tzimiscedraculhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16762161243138880483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2513019539869706574.post-40649319488560635472012-02-06T07:03:24.256+08:002012-02-06T07:03:24.256+08:00Its a good idea. I much prefer vast topographical ...Its a good idea. I much prefer vast topographical oddity or use of planets to the almost empty useless notion of "planes".<br /><br />Vernor Vinge (I haven't read his work) had the idea that intelligence in species increased as one moved from the unthinking depths approaching the centre of our Galaxy to godlike entities far out in the 'transcend'. Technology itself stops working depending on its complexity the closer you move inwards too, ie spaceships break down and so on.Kenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11165997449776226774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2513019539869706574.post-1770532708447528502012-02-06T07:01:35.694+08:002012-02-06T07:01:35.694+08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Kenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11165997449776226774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2513019539869706574.post-68600080572949350472012-02-06T05:41:27.659+08:002012-02-06T05:41:27.659+08:00Maybe you need to tweak it a bit.
Mars = just eno...Maybe you need to tweak it a bit.<br /><br />Mars = just enough older than Earth so that Martians are smug and decadence is starting to set in.<br /><br />Jupiter = hedonistic, solipsistic closed society with a bureaucratic buffer zone to keep off-worlders at bay. Every single inch of the planet is urban and regulated.<br /><br />Saturn = entire planet *was* urban and controlled, now most of it is abandoned. Max Headroom meets Dark Angel.<br /><br />Neptune = total social and ecological collapse. Many ruins under icy ammonia oceans. Bands of barbaric Neptunians living as strangers in the remnants of their forgotten glory; the few who still use machines don't understand the technology, are possibly using it wrong, and can't repair it, only pray to the gods who built it all.Talysmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02162328521343832412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2513019539869706574.post-19288300532803550522012-02-06T04:41:32.004+08:002012-02-06T04:41:32.004+08:00"Further out = older" was based on the b..."Further out = older" was based on the best scientific knowledge of the time. AIR the view was that the accretion disk from which the solar system formed collapsed into planets first at the furthest extremities, then later and later as you went further in. It was only considerably later that it was established that the whole solar system formed at roughly the same time.Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01173759805310975320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2513019539869706574.post-44124223497968962582012-02-06T04:34:33.734+08:002012-02-06T04:34:33.734+08:00Maybe on Uranus the last civilization is long dead...Maybe on Uranus the last civilization is long dead, but the ghosts of its citizens are still around.noismshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09933436762608669966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2513019539869706574.post-15591940577327706822012-02-06T04:32:48.938+08:002012-02-06T04:32:48.938+08:00I think in the source literature the trend breaks ...I think in the source literature the trend breaks down at the asteroid belt (which of course, surely must be the remnant of a destroyed world). Of course, no reason not to extend it. Jupiter could be a world of brain-monstrosities, evolved beyond the need of bodies, swimming in gaseous seas. Neptune is a world of ice-girt prehuman ruins--a tomb-world in an eons long ice age. Not sure about Saturn and Uranus.Treyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04647628467658839351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2513019539869706574.post-70838271501903802082012-02-06T04:30:00.821+08:002012-02-06T04:30:00.821+08:00Pluto may not be a planet, but we'll always ha...Pluto may not be a planet, but we'll always have Yuggoth.Roger G-Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08594440701279968693noreply@blogger.com