tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2513019539869706574.post8924556161330152175..comments2024-03-29T06:16:21.012+08:00Comments on Monsters and Manuals: The Revolutionary PCUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2513019539869706574.post-57660861819934245402012-11-14T04:37:20.609+08:002012-11-14T04:37:20.609+08:00Hmm, this makes me want to run a sandbox 'The ...Hmm, this makes me want to run a sandbox 'The Price of Freedom' game.... but should I set it in 1985 or 2015? Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01173759805310975320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2513019539869706574.post-11088063635771432632012-11-13T23:32:52.377+08:002012-11-13T23:32:52.377+08:00And check out anything about Che in Congo if you w...And check out anything about Che in Congo if you want to know what happens when a revolutionary Player Comrade rolls on the fumble table.Andy Bartletthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06683770320671028815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2513019539869706574.post-72613955027107752272012-11-13T23:31:14.535+08:002012-11-13T23:31:14.535+08:00I'd also recommend 'Bandits' by Eric H...I'd also recommend 'Bandits' by Eric Hobsbawm - a nice slim book with plenty of inspiration for a revolutionary campaign.Andy Bartletthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06683770320671028815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2513019539869706574.post-49305745851124607822012-11-13T16:38:56.030+08:002012-11-13T16:38:56.030+08:00I think the important distinction is that heroes a...I think the important distinction is that heroes are supposedly selfless, whereas revolutionaries are basically selfish, even if they're doing everything for the good of their cause rather than directly for themselves.grahamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04504705324275536197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2513019539869706574.post-52270165967150645162012-11-13T11:20:10.439+08:002012-11-13T11:20:10.439+08:00I love the idea of PCs as revolutionaries. I can i...I love the idea of PCs as revolutionaries. I can imagine the fun you could have running revolutionay PCs in a Greyhawk campaign, fomenting dissent in The Great Kingdon or the Theocracy of the Pale.<br /><br />Also, look into the early years of Che Gueverra and Fidel Castro for Robin Hood-style revolutionaries.The Badger Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09020950272210873449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2513019539869706574.post-83977574188364026402012-11-13T07:07:38.693+08:002012-11-13T07:07:38.693+08:00Start killing off your fellow PCs in the quest for...Start killing off your fellow PCs in the quest for total power, of course.Alex J.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00147269991231314528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2513019539869706574.post-57330832035382876202012-11-13T06:42:00.113+08:002012-11-13T06:42:00.113+08:00That's the kind of thing I'm talking about...That's the kind of thing I'm talking about, for sure.noismshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09933436762608669966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2513019539869706574.post-6979742936757400412012-11-13T06:41:10.152+08:002012-11-13T06:41:10.152+08:00That's a fair comment. I suppose the word &quo...That's a fair comment. I suppose the word "hero" has a certain connotation in fantasy that implies something specific: somebody who fights for good against evil. This does not connotate "revolution" and could perhaps be very reactionary.noismshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09933436762608669966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2513019539869706574.post-51159940691973657102012-11-13T06:38:39.986+08:002012-11-13T06:38:39.986+08:00Years ago, I ran an urban adventure in which the p...Years ago, I ran an urban adventure in which the players were tasked with overthrowing the local ruler (by a god whose worship he had outlawed). I gave them a big map of the city and absolutely no leads to start with, and let them figure it out from there. It was fun, but I handled it wrong - I'd set it up so that a couple of pre-existing powerful groups had a vested interest in helping the PCs, which ended up sapping away a lot of the players' initiative. That, and the goal was more about killing the current ruler than building a viable power base and taking his place. If I ran it again, I would make the various power blocs much more disinterested and wrapped up in their own concerns, so that the players would actually have to make deals and broker alliances, and make them have to secure their power or else face reprisals from the ruler's allies.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07090296806321882601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2513019539869706574.post-56711402149747790302012-11-13T06:21:11.509+08:002012-11-13T06:21:11.509+08:00I hesitate to poke at an OSR truism, but it seems ...I hesitate to poke at an OSR truism, but it seems to me that a revolutionary PC - unless he is a dishonest opportunist and not a real revolutionary - would certainly see himself as a hero, and would probably be seen as a hero by other revolutionaries if he or she is successful.<br /><br />How would you divide "revolutionary" from "hero", at least from a subjective point of view? StevenWarblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12697680166430879676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2513019539869706574.post-48363557082531312982012-11-13T05:55:35.343+08:002012-11-13T05:55:35.343+08:00THEY NEVER WIN.
Actually it depends. By that poin...THEY NEVER WIN.<br /><br />Actually it depends. By that point so much will have gone on there'll be all kinds of other things to get involved with.noismshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09933436762608669966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2513019539869706574.post-28591488518089318342012-11-13T05:38:20.787+08:002012-11-13T05:38:20.787+08:00What happens when the PCs 'win', though?What happens when the PCs 'win', though?Andy Bartletthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06683770320671028815noreply@blogger.com