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Saturday, 7 April 2012
Of All The Splatbooks I've Loved Before: The Complete Thief's Handbook
I'm conflicted about the 2nd edition "Completes". For every good idea, there was a bad one, and I think there was something damaging about the mentality of endless rules-based customization (as opposed to imagination-based customization) they promoted. Instead of just imagining that your thief was a burglar, you now had a mechanical justification for it, which actually functioned to restrict options by sending the message that in order to do something interesting with a character class there needed to be a TSR-sanctioned way to do so. Rather than extremely broad character classes functioning as a canvas on which a player could paint almost whatever he wanted, suddenly people were rushing to the breast of Mummy TSR to suckle on her dangling teats for their imaginative milk.
However, one thing that the earlier Completes had in common was promotion of random generation as a means of sub-creation. This was an unqualified good. And it gave me an abiding love for the random generator which I don't think will ever go away.
A good set of random generator tables is a game unto itself. It makes DM prep genuinely enjoyable, because it allows you to roll lots of dice and surprise yourself with the results. This is intrinsically fun, but it does something extra - it, in turn, sets off creative sparks in your own mind as you attempt to weld the results together into something that fits. This gives the campaign world detail and throws out, like confetti, hooks for the PCs to get caught on.
Let's illustrate this through reference to the The Complete Thief's Handbook's Random Thieves' Guild Generator. I will now use this generator to create a thieves' guild for the town of Swiftly, which I have just thought up (and stolen the name of from the title of a book I recently read). Swiftly is a river port, and it's a decent sized town - we'll say a population of 8,000. Here goes:
First, we find out how wealthy the town is. It's on a trade route, it has a port, and it's a major town, so it gets some bonuses for this. The final result of 19 - it's very wealthy. Naturally Swiftly is plush with cash from all the goods and money changing hands.
Next, we determine the attitude of the law. I have to know the dominant social alignment, but we'll call that neutral. I roll a 20, which means the law is corrupt. Obviously, the wealth in the town makes it easy to buy off judges. Or maybe the judges are just merchants - they're one and the same thing, and merchant courts run the legal system itself.
After that, we find out the relationships of the thieves to the merchants, and to other guilds. Again, we get some modifiers here because the law is corrupt, the society is rich, and so on. The result is a "standoff". The merchants are not in cahoots with the thieves' guild, but nor are they hostile. Their relationships with the assassins and bards' guilds are indifferent, but there is hostility with the beggars' guild. (I love, by the way, how it is taken for granted that these other guilds exist.) Beggars and thieves don't get along in Swiftly.
We now find out how many thieves there are in the town. The population is 8,000, and it is wealthy, and the law is corrupt, so the number is 2d10+3+10%. So that makes 15, rounded down. Some of these may not actually be in the guild itself - we'll find out shortly.
Now, the characteristics of the guild. I roll a 4, which indicates the leader is a guildmaster. A little disappointing, because if you get a 20 you get to roll on a special sub-table including results like "the guildmaster is a dragon". But you don't want to overdo things. We then turn to the nature of the rule, which is based on three axes: strong/weak, cruel/just, and despotic/populist. The leadership rolls reveal it to be weak, fairly cruel, and fairly despotic. A further roll, on another table, indicates that the membership is cohesive.
From this a picture emerges of a rather pathetic guildmaster who resorts to cruelty and despotism in an attempt to hold sway. The thieves in the guild remain cohesive, perhaps because life is good in Swiftly (it is so rich, and the law is so corrupt), and perhaps because none of them are particularly willing to challenge the guildmaster. They'd prefer to avoid being head of the organisation and thereby becoming targets themselves. They like the easy status quo - the guildmaster is not powerful enough to be anything more than a nuisance - and they are willing to let him be the fall guy if necessary.
The number of thieves in the guild is 75% of the population of thieves as a base rate, with -10% because leadership is weak, making it 65%. That's 9.75, rounded up to 10. The members are neutral to the 5 thieves who are not in the guild. The picture of a relatively lazy, laid-back guild solidifies. The thieves of Swiftly have it so easy, it isn't worth fighting - except, apparently, with beggars.
We now find out the levels of the thieves in the town. There are 2 of level 4, 1 of level 3, and 5 of level 2. The other 7 are 1st level. It makes sense for one of the 4th level thieves to be the guildmaster, with a the 3rd level guy/girl as his lieutenant. The remaining 4th level thief, and 4 of the 2nd levellers, would be independent - being of a certain level of competence, they don't need the guild and prefer to keep all their loot to themselves rather than pay guild fees. The 1st levellers are all good members - probably mostly youngsters.
And there you have it. The next steps would be to flesh out the names, personality and equipment of the higher-level thieves, think up a reason for the war with the beggars' guild, perhaps jot down some other NPCs - notably corrupt merchant/judges, high-up beggars, and so on - and there you have it: a finished thieves' guild. About 10 minutes' work, and something for the PCs to interact with should they ever end up in Swiftly.
Incontrovertible evidence that random generators are your friend.
I also remember the great dwarven settlement generator from Complete Dwarf.
ReplyDeleteYes! I'll have to dig that one out.
DeleteHmm...I may need to look into this. That sounds tremendously useful.
ReplyDeleteYeah, too bad they weren't more even about those great random table offerings in all the books. The Celtic Campaign book had GREAT atmospheric background tables for PCs, which we loved when we played a mini-campaign. We were disappointed that the Viking book didn't have anything like that, nor did the Roman if I recall correctly. Should have been a staple section.
ReplyDeleteI agree. I don't know, but I think it depends on the author. For instance the Complete Paladin has a section on creating a holy circle of paladins (or whatever you call it) but it doesn't have any random tables. That never made any sense to me - it seems perfect for it.
DeleteThere's your next OSR crowdsourced table project then!!
DeleteThe way that you describe the results and then the connections that rise up really resonates with my experience of using random generation for all sorts of things. I think there is a snobbery in general that creativity (of many kinds) via random generation is somehow inferior to not coming up with everything yourself.
ReplyDeleteRandom generation is just channelling creativity in one way - it's still up to you (or anyone using it) to fill in the details and make the connections.
Can we expect to see more of the town of Swiftly?
Well, random generation is in my ways superior to ordinary creativity. If you ask somebody to sit down and think up a thieves' guild they'll probably struggle for hours and come up with something bland. Whereas if you give them randomly generated results they'll come up with something interesting.
DeleteI might do a few more posts using some of the random tables from the Completes.
I should have clarified - looking back over my post I don't think I made it clear - random generation does suffer from a snobbery I think, but as you say, it is totally misplaced. Creative constraints are incredibly freeing.
DeleteI actually quite liked the kits. Not that we ever used them properly - simply because they were a prompt that helped our adolescent imagination think of a whole raft of ways that fighters (or whatever) could be colourfully different. Actually, I think that the fighter one had a few alternative combat rules that we pinched.
ReplyDeleteAs for random tables - does anyone have a favourite fantasy equivalent to the Traveller subsector generator? Is there anything that can 'do' whole domains/regions, or is it a case of collecting a bunch of generators from diverse sources?
You may find this useful-
Deletehttp://www.emichron.com/swn/
It's an automated version of the random Star Cluster generator in 'Stars Without Number' a free Old-School style science fiction sandbox. You can get the free pdf of the game here http://www.sinenomine-pub.com/
I did mine the old fashoned way, with dice and a pencil, I like working out the connections.
(Sorry. I just re-read your comment and realised you wanted a fantasy version, Abulafia has a page of fantasy place generators here
http://www.random-generator.com/index.php?title=Places )
I had forgotten about the generators in the "complete" books. Maybe I should pick up copies of the core 4 (or 7 if you count the main races). I remember the content being of dramatically varying quality, but they are obviously much more compatible with most of the OSR games than stuff that came later. The complete necromancer book (in the blue DMG series), for example, has some excellent content, but it also has lots of filler.
ReplyDeleteI have the same love/hate relationship with this series of books. There was a lot of filler in these, so to me it seemed like the type of stuff that was generally more suited for an article in "Dragon" However just the idea of kits, and the introduction of combat styles in the complete Fighters Handbook makes it a worthwhile read.
ReplyDeleteIf you are into random generators, you really should check out the Gygaxian Fantasy Worlds series. At times it's a little overboard, but you can generate anything randomly, even the plot, with these books.